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FELIX TORRES created a new topic ' Fuel leaking' in the forum. 17 hours 43 minutes ago

Hello everyone,

I hope this is the correct forum to post these pictures. Currently I have fuel leaking from the fuel cap.
It only happens when I go flying, I had the fuel cap seals replaced and it helped a little but it continues to happen.
It starting to bother me every time I see these.





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RALPH BENJAMIN created a new topic ' Cessna 182S Oil temp sensor/probe' in the forum. 23 hours 41 minutes ago

I am getting a low temp indication on the original round oil temp gauge.Seldon will the gauge show hotter than 150 degrees. I purchased a thermometer with a 18 sensing probe that I can put down the dipstick tube after a flight and find that the temp of the oil is at least 20 degrees hotter than the in cockpit gauge indicates.
Can anyone tell me how to locate the oil temp probe so that I can start to troubleshoot this problem. Thanks Ralph Benjamin

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Thank you Paul!

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ALLEN D. BRINCKERHOFF created a new topic ' Garmin GTX 33 transponder for sale' in the forum. 4 days ago

See "For Sale/Wanted" section

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ALLEN D. BRINCKERHOFF created a new topic ' GTX 33 for sale' in the forum. 4 days ago

See "For Sale/Wanted" section

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ALLEN D. BRINCKERHOFF created a new topic ' Garmin GTX 33 for sale' in the forum. 4 days ago

FOR SALE

Garmin GTX 33 Transponder Removed from my 2004 C-T182T to install a Garmin GTX 335R to meet ADS-B requirements.

I have verified with Garmin that this unit can be upgraded to a GTX 33es to satisfy ADS-B out. Must have a WAAS GPS source.

That is why I had to change to the GTX 335R since my G1000 suite is not WAAS configured.

$500 for the unit



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Alan Collins replied to the topic 'Distorted firewall in 182. Is replacement a MUST?' in the forum. 5 days ago

Thanks, Paul. Great info!
Knowing what I do today, if I had owned the airplane when this incident happened I would have ask for the additional structural bracing (and paid for it myself). But I'm not going to have it done now. I don't fly rough fields or training operations and I don't have insurance concerns. (By coincidence, my insurance company rep happened to be in my area so he saw it in person.)
The firewall sheet is not buckled, wrinkled, creased, or otherwise damaged but it is also not perfectly flat. This does not concern me because any damage to the structure was repaired -- all affected bulkheads, stiffeners, doublers were replaced.
I did get a preliminary estimate from Beegles. (They did not look at it in person.) To replace the firewall sheet and add two stiffeners is 156 hours labor. It's something I may do some day, if there is a need for other repairs. But to tear into it now is too much risk for too little benefit.

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Paul Gryko replied to the topic 'Distorted firewall in 182. Is replacement a MUST?' in the forum. 5 days ago

SK182-44C should be done when that part of the aircraft is opened up and easily accessible. IE it should have been done when the firewall was initially repaired regardless if the insurance was paying for it or not. In today's world, SL SE71-5 would be viewed as justification to deny a insurance claim if you were found to have used "Rough Field and/or training operations". Since this information is available to the owners and mechanics and required for sign off using a aircraft KNOWING there is a potential for damage may not be in compliance with some regulatory information.

Without getting into the nitty gritty of it, I have attached the section from the manuals. (You can sign up at Textron and get all the latest stuff you need for your plane.)
You can see in black and white what your mechanic is saying, how the previous repair should have been completed etc. There are other structural repairs available to some service centres that may be 3rd party. The beef up I was referring to is one of these done by STC. I was going to attach it but for some reason it wont upload.

Ultimately it should be at the minimum "Addressed". If you need a second opinion, take it to someone like Beegles in Colorado that 1)specialises these sorts of things and 2) really doesn't need any "make work" projects.

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Alan Collins replied to the topic 'Distorted firewall in 182. Is replacement a MUST?' in the forum. 5 days ago

Just to close this off...

After consulting many experts and conducting my own research, I've concluded that my prior mechanic's proposal to replace the firewall skin is too risky. I've chosen not to do this, and have engaged a new mechanic (IA) who agrees with my assessment.

As the owner/operator, it is my responsibility to maintain the aircraft in an airworthy condition. While I respect the professional opinion of the mechanic who says the firewall is unairworthy, I disagree. (This is somewhat analogous to if my doctor told me I have cancer; I would seek a second opinion. The second doctor may agree or may not. Either way, it's my body and I will choose the treatment.)

In this case, my new mechanic examined it, then contacted the FAA at my FSDO, and sent them pictures. The FAA agrees, as does almost everyone else, that the firewall is fine. A quote from AOPA resonated with me: "There are mechanics who are pragmatic, and there are those that want to do a $12,000 annual every year."

The other decision factor was this: Replacing the firewall "skin" is a major repair in any sense of the word. There are many things that could go wrong and remain undetected until failure. My plane's 'tunnel structure' was replaced 10 years ago. It, and the existing firewall, has had hundreds of hours of successful flight testing. The risk/benefit ratio of replacing the firewall now is simply too high.

P.S. I am aware of Service Kit SK182-44C for firewall and tunnel reinforcement. If I ever do need the firewall repaired I will apply this. But for now, "if it ain't broke, ...".

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Jeff Belanger replied to the topic 'New guy in CO (1V6)' in the forum. 1 week ago

Thanks guys, a WAAS GPS is definitely on the need list, the two airports I'll be using most only offer LPV approaches. I've read quite a bit on the Vitatoe Steve, and I agree that I'd put one on the shopping list in short order too if I could afford it. William, maybe we'll run in to each other somewhere around, I'm usually hauling freight in a beech queen air or 99 when I'm flying around the area. Look for a short guy with a mountain man style beard and come say hi! Thanks for the input!!

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William Gust replied to the topic 'New guy in CO (1V6)' in the forum. 1 week ago

I live in southern Colorado also. I have 1800 hours in the T210. I currently own a 1978 T210M for the last ten years. Previous T210 was a 1974 model. The 78 still has the gear doors. It is a great airplane for Colorado. I fly west a lot and the turbo gets me up to altitude to have a good clearance over the Rockies. I have found that if you stay on top of the maintenance is, the airplane can be very reliable.

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STEVE ELLS replied to the topic 'New guy in CO (1V6)' in the forum. 2 weeks ago

Jeff; It's been proven again and again that smart money buys the best airplane an owner can afford. My guess is that at a minimum, you'll want a WAAS GPS, and ADS-B In and Out. If I had an oil well I would own a Vitatoe P 210. The Vitatoe mod takes a normally aspirated IO 550 (with 8.5:1 compression) and mates it to a turbo charger system that came with the P210. The turbocharger output is limited to 31 inches of manifold pressure, which turns the engine into a turbo normalized IO-550. This is the best of both worlds since normally aspirated big bore Continental engines have the 8.5:1 compression, they are much more efficient than the factory turbocharged TSIO 520 and 550 engines which have a less efficient compression ratio of 7.5:1 and the turbo normalizer provides sea level power out of the engine up into the mid teens in altitude..
It's a terrific airplane. Can climb right up to 23,000 feet without an undue stress on the engine and cruise at over 210 knots. Quiet and in pressurized comfort. Sweet, but alas I don't have an oil well so I can only dream.
S

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Jen D thanked STEVE ELLS in topic Winterization kit 2 weeks ago
Kent Dellenbusch created a new topic ' PAID FAA RESEARCH - We Need Pilots!' in the forum. 2 weeks ago

PAID FAA RESEARCH - We Need Pilots!
Two studies are being conducted at the FAA Mike Monroney Aeronautical Center in Oklahoma City near Will Rogers Airport. Data collection MUST be completed SOON.
The studies pay $25 per hour plus a $20 travel allotment for each study. Each studies takes between 2-3 hrs. If eligible, you can participate in one OR both studies on the same (or different days).

1. Flight deck maximum force strength study needs ANY RATING PILOT - FEMALES ages 30-59 OR MALES ages 30-49. Medical currency NOT required. MUST participate by DEC 13, 2018!

This study collects maximum forces that can be exerted by an individual while in the normal seated position for aircraft control inceptors. The most recent updates of allowable control forces in 23.143 and 25.143 was not fully representative of the current demographics of the pilot and potential-pilot populations. This study is an attempt to obtain an additional larger sample of pilots and nonpilots performing force-application tasks on aircraft controls for both fixed-wing (yoke, stick, rudder pedals) and rotary-wing (cyclic, collective) aircraft.

2. IFR/UAS Control Station study needs ANY IFR-rated pilots OR large (>55 lbs) UAS/UAV operators. Medical currency NOT required. MUST participate by JAN 2018!

The Full Mission Evaluation of an Unmanned Aircraft System (UAS) Control Station study evaluates the effectiveness of flight and flight-related displays for use in a UAS control station under realistic mission conditions. Information gained from the study will be used to provide information to standards groups both within and outside of the FAA that bears upon the establishment of standards for UAS control stations.

To schedule your study participation, please call or email us TODAY!!
• (405) 954-0374;
• (405) 954-6836;
• (405) 954-6837;

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Jeff Belanger replied to the topic 'New guy in CO (1V6)' in the forum. 2 weeks ago

Thanks Steve,

I'm still very much in the reading and learning phase of this process. As I recently read somewhere online, "I'd like to buy my last airplane first." I'll certainly reach out as questions arise, thanks for your help.

Jeff

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STEVE ELLS replied to the topic 'Greetings from the Great White North' in the forum. 2 weeks ago

Hi Paul;
Glad you're on. I know you have a lot of real world experience to pass on to our readers.
Your reply to the three bladed prop question was very good.

Steve

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STEVE ELLS replied to the topic 'New guy in CO (1V6)' in the forum. 2 weeks ago

Hi Jeff; I wrote an article on the 210 series a few years ago. You can find it in the Cessna Pilots magazine archives here:
www.cessnaflyer.org/cessna-singles/cessn...-of-the-singles.html.

Cessna Flyer also has a number of 210 owners. I'm sure any of the following will be able to help you with questions.
210 owner/members:
Jeff Strouse: 626-826-7806 ,
Bob Longo: ,
Gale Cawley:
269-313-0787
Tell them you got their contact from the Cessna Flyer HQ.
As a member you also have access to a wide range of articles. You can access magazine archives by clicking on the magazine button on the top of the page. You'll be able to access articles such as this one about buying and selling an airplane:
www.cessnaflyer.org/maintenance-tech/ite...selling-a-plane.html.
This is an article explaining the sequence of events in the landing gear system of a 1964 Cessna 210; while it's not a T210, this sequence applies to all the 210s with the flat steel spring landing gear: www.cessnaflyer.org/maintenance-tech/ite...in-an-early-210.html.
Let us know how we can help further,
Steve

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STEVE ELLS replied to the topic 'New guy in CO (1V6)' in the forum. 2 weeks ago

Hi Jeff; I wrote an article on the 210 series a few years ago. You can find it in the Cessna Pilots magazine archives here:
www.cessnaflyer.org/cessna-singles/cessn...-of-the-singles.html.

Cessna Flyer also has a number of 210 owners. I'm sure any of the following will be able to help you with questions.
210 owner/members:
Jeff Strouse: 626-826-7806 ,
Bob Longo: ,
Gale Cawley:
269-313-0787
Tell them you got their contact from the Cessna Flyer HQ.
Let me know how I can help further,
Steve

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